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Friday, October 13, 2006

the torture and death of a sixteen year old girl...coming to a theatre near you!

~A young pretty maiden, abandoned by her parents and alone in the world, is held captive and menaced by a cruel and sadistic adult. With nobility of character, she silently suffers her torments, patiently waiting for good-hearted prince or knight to appear, vanquishing her evil keeper and carrying her off to the freedom and happiness her gentle soul deserves. This premise has fed countless childhood fables throughout the centuries, from the Brothers Grimm to Hans Christian Anderson. In the twentieth century, those old fables would be given a new life through Walt Disney, providing the source material for his best and most loved films. But what do we do when the heroic prince never arrives, never fights his way through the enchanted forest to resurrect the fair damsel with a kiss? What do we do when the story ends not with the beautiful virgin safe and happy, facing a bright future at her liberator’s side, but rather with her broken and tortured corpse dumped on a soiled mattress, ruby-red lips now unkissable after being chewed through out of starvation and despair?


~In the summer of 1965 the parents of sixteen year old Sylvia Likens and her younger sister Jenny left Indianapolis in hopes of making it as food vendors with a traveling carnival. Not wanting to be burdened with the two young girls, they left them in the care of single mother of seven, Gertrude Baniszewski. Because Mr. Likens had only met the woman he was leaving his daughters with the day before, he was unaware that her household was even more stricken with dirt and poverty than his own; that, with the addition of Sylvia and Jenny, there would now be ten people in a house with only three spoons, so that meals had to be eaten in shifts. Without investigating the complete stranger, or even looking around inside the rat-hole of a house, Ma and Pa Likens went off to follow their carny dreams, pausing only long enough to offer Ms. Baniszewski the regrettable advice; "You'll have to take care of these girls with a firm hand because their mother has let them do as they please”.


~And it was with a firm hand Gertrude met the responsibility of caring for her new wards. During the second week of their stay, Jenny and Sylvia were stripped and beaten with a paddle when the twenty dollar weekly fee for their up-keep arrived a day late. As grim as this event may sound, the use of pain and humiliation in the punishment of children -or teenagers- at this time and place (Indianapolis is a hub of evangelical Christianity and a stone’s throw from the Mason-Dixon line) was the rule, not the exception. The cruel and humiliating nature of corporal punishment is an essential ingredient in the endless cycle of poverty and despair, and because these two girls had only ever experienced life in terms of parental bullying, random violence and capricious beatings that was their lot in life, there was nothing unusual or unique in this particular violation. No, as members of the underclass, as minors, as females there was nothing of interest for Sylvia and Jenny in this undeserved thrashing…but there was an important corner turned for their abuser, Gertrude Baniszewski. Standing over her two naked and bruised victims, listening to their wailing and pleading, the frail and sickly woman (she was less then forty at the time…she looks about sixty) felt something deep within her, something formerly suppressed by a lifetime of abusive and abandoning husbands, grueling poverty and crippling ignorance. What Gertrude had sought desperately for in the arms of countless men, in the seven children she suckled at her breast, in the countless hours praying to an absent God, suddenly stared up at her with crystalline clarity from the raw and torn flesh of the two terrified girls. We’ll never know exactly what that special something was that Gertrude Baniszewski discovered that night; even if she had possessed the language or insight to communicate what she felt, it’s doubtful she would have shared it with the outside world. But whatever words we choose to translate her motives into a language we can understand, it all comes out the same. Whether it was pure spite, envy, sadism, repressed sexual fury or just blinding hatred of life that suddenly filled Gertrude’s brittle, black heart, they all equal the same thing: power.


~So from July through October of 1965, the Baniszewski house became a theatre of degradation and horror beyond description. While at first both of the Likens girls were set to take center stage, Gertrude quickly limited her rage to Sylvia. Resulting from a childhood bout of polio, Jenny Likens was an undersized 15-year-old cripple. The sight of Jenny hobbling around with her leg brace must have offered little by way of sadistic pleasure for her keeper. Sylvia, on the other hand, was a healthy, attractive girl, who’s consistently remembered as being bright and humorous. For a figure as prematurely twisted and bitter as Gertrude Baniszewski, whose own children were cow-eyed dullards, the warmth of gregarious youth breezing through her dark hovel must have been too much to bear, and so she annihilated it. The task of snuffing out such a joyful and sunny light was more than the frail and sickly could handle, so she enlisted the help of her own children, particularly her daughter Paula and son John. They quickly extended the circle by bringing in other neighborhood teenagers, who were only too willing to participate in the torture and violation of (the usually nude) Sylvia. Abusing Gertrude’s slave became a common pass-time for local kids, so endlessly enjoyable that boys like Coy Hubbard and Richard Hobbs would interrupt their pleasure long enough to run home for a quick dinner with the parents. The few adults who either noticed Sylvia’s wretched appearance or over-heard her tormented howls, instantly dismissed the situation as falling within the scope of punitive punishment for an unruly or disobedient child.


~Once death finally ended Sylvia Likens’ four-month ordeal, her body would offer a final and damning testament regarding the reasonable limits of corporal punishment. Forced starvation had eaten away her once blossoming womanhood; the only meals they had ‘allowed’ her to eat was soup without a spoon and forced consumption of her own waste. Large patches of skin had peeled off as a result of the baths in scaulding water they had dropped her in. The coroner would discover more than 150 cigarette burns peppering her body, a result of Gertrude’s use of her flesh as an ashtray. While it’s never been confirmed that either Gertrude or any of the teenage boys engaged in overt sexual activity, there was a communal rage focused on Sylvia’s genitals; months of kicking, punching and violation with coke bottles had left her groin grossly swollen and disfigured. Not only had she bitten clear through her own lip, but the nails of both her hands were bent back and bloody, the result of desperately trying to claw her way out of her basement prison. And most famously, most horrifically, burned into the stomach of this dead, broken 16 year-old virgin, were the words: “I’M A PROSTITUTE AND PROUD OF IT!” .






~Why, you may well ask, am I writing about this tragic, pointless crime on a web-site dedicated to discussing film? Because, ladies and gentlemen, soon the events described above will be a movie, playing at a theatre near you. Thanks to the fine folks in Hollywood, California, you too will be able to reserve a front row seat to watch and enjoy the spectacle of an adolescent girl’s brutal torture and death. For those of you who only are hearing about this case from reading this site, rest assured, there are other vile, disgusting facts I did not include in my description, that will be a pleasant surprise when settled in at your local multiplex. You too can soon know what Gertrude knew, the pleasure of watching Sylvia naked and trembling, pleading for the pain and humiliation to end. Before, the sight of Sylvia’s degradation was the sole property of her tormentors; the rest of us having to depend on the limitations of imagination when witnessing her destruction. But no longer will we have to rely on the faulty medium of the written word to enjoy Gertrude’s handiwork, now we will have every bruise, every tear rendered in absolute reality through state of the art technology. The feeble scraping of a shovel against the basement wall, Sylvia’s desperate (and futile) attempt to make contact with the outside world, will now ring with perfect clarity- THX will give the depth and volume necessary to truly appreciate another’s suffering. Sylvia Likens spent the final four months of her life in the darkest corner of Hell. Thanks to the magic of motion pictures, that visit to Hell will now be permanent. For all eternity, her violation will be acted out, rewound, then acted out again.


~I fully appreciate that the filmmakers’ motives in digging up and displaying Sylvia Likens’ corpse are completely free of exploitation or satisfying prurient curiosity. Indeed, I assume that everyone involved in this project believe themselves to be noble and selfless in the telling of this story. As the release date approaches, we will certainly hear from the actors, writers and director a uniform speech of horror and outrage when first learning of Sylvia Likens’ murder. And I for one will believe them. I don’t doubt for a second that they didn’t experience the same nausea and sleepless nights I and countless others did when reading Kate Millet’s book on the subject, “The Basement”. Where my reaction to this sad story differs is I never felt I had the right to make it my own.


~Just as I said in my piece about the recent glut of 9/11 movies, I don’t think filmmakers choose these weighty subjects out of the cynical intention to turn a quick buck. Not only will the main character in this film die (never a development that plays well with the movie-going public), but of her murderers, Gertrude is the only one who served any real prison time (20 years; Paula served three, the boys released after a year and a half). If a producer were looking to secure box office profits, he would be better served by something a little more tailored to the American pallet, like a Rob Schneider vehicle called “The Gassy Guy”-about a bumbling stooge who uses his considerable flatulence to both fly and fight crime. “The Gassy Guy” loans itself to a marketing blitz of toys and video games, in a way that the story of Sylvia Likens does not (at least I pray it won’t). It is not crass exploitation that drives filmmakers who choose projects like this; rather, it is out of the deeply held belief that art can affect change in such a profound way that we can no longer ignore the screams of a tortured child. This is an awfully noble goal, and one that reveals a total failure on the artist’s part to understand the limited role he serves.
~When artists aspire to conquer new territory and succeed, it is brilliant. When, however, that same territory has been previously explored by others, it becomes vital that the artist find some new and unexpected way to communicate their ideas. Can this new film (which seems to be alternating between using Millet’s “The Basement” for its’ title or the even less subtle “An American Crime”) really create a new way of seeing, can it tell a story that we haven’t already heard? The ugliness of child abuse is hardly new to our cultural dialogue; it wouldn’t take me more than ten minutes of channel surfing to locate either a talk show offering a detailed accounting of childhood trauma or a dramatized retelling of those same events. The declaration that a legacy of silence veils these crimes hardly seems accurate anymore. There now exists a veritable library of recent books- both fictional and non-fictional- that sift and resift through the ashes of destroyed childhoods, plus there exists not one, but two cable channels (Lifetime and Oxygen) whose programming seems limited to adaptations of those books. At the center of all this, we find the endless, endless chatter of talk shows offering the viewer fifty minutes to explore the wreckage of others’ lives. Any artist claiming that the subject of child abuse is ignored or downplayed by the culture at large is so disconnected from the modern world that his or her value as a social critic must be seriously questioned.


~During the past six years, the countless crimes of our current president have become fodder for young artists. A visit to any gallery nestled in your local bohemian district will show just how contemptuous our best and brightest are toward the policies of Bush and his goon squad. And while this contempt is certainly valid, what courage is there in expressing it in the safe venue of the art gallery or poetry slam, where you’re guaranteed an agreeing and appreciative audience? Every indicator points to “The Basement”/”An American Crime” being slated as an independent film with a limited release. The production company, Killer Films, has been responsible for the lion’s share of interesting movies made in the past ten years, including “Hedwig and the Angry Inch”(2001;Mitchell), “Series 7: The Contenders”(2001;Minahan) and “Happiness”(1998;Solondz). This film may play well on the festival circuit and in art houses, deeply moving its’ audience of intellectual humanists. And that’s the crux of the problem; there is certainly a built-in audience for any dark and thought-provoking movie pairing Catherine Keener and Emily Page (fresh off last year’s indie hit “Hard Candy”)… it’s just not the right audience.


~Assuming its’ a well-made, the select viewers that see this movie will be saddened and angered after watching the torture and death of Sylvia Likens, still pondering her horrible fate as they stop off on the way home to pick up some fresh produce from the organic market. More than one plate of pad thai will remain uneaten, the brutality of what was just witnessed too cruel and inhuman to wash away even with a second bottle of Bacca Bella Cabernet Sauvignon Riserva. And while I don’t want to negate the legitimacy of the rage of this particular viewer (it is the same rage I experienced when I first read Millet’s book), I can’t help but find it to be the misspent impotence of the passive voyeur. The simple fact of the matter is, the audience that will see this movie does not significantly over-lap those who would beat and starve a child to death, nor are these people who would dismiss evidence of gross abuse out of cultural and religious beliefs regarding corporal punishment. Making generalizations is wrong only to the extent to which they exclude important exceptions, so I fully concede that it is a possibility that somewhere, at some point in time, a child of intelligent, liberal parents was mercilessly beaten to a pulp. The possibility of that one exception made, the filmmakers would better serve their noble cause, and reach the appropriate audience, by investing their money in a series of Public Service Announcements hosted by Larry The Cable Guy…ideally run during commercial breaks in Fox Sports’ telecast of NASCAR races.


~But maybe this has less to do with protecting children from meeting the same fate as Sylvia Likens and more to do with commiserating with other sensitive bystanders. What happened in the Baniszewski house does not end with a moral that we can apply to our own lives; there is no call to action found in the broken body of Sylvia Likens. All we are left with is our despair and disgust, as well as our utter helplessness in stopping this thing from happening again. Isn’t that the real motivation for making this movie and the real motivation for seeing it? The authoritarian household is the nursery of the authoritarian state, so as the majority of Americans move farther and farther to the right, the rest of us can do nothing--nothing, but react in impotent horror at the sight of parents using terror to train the next generation of Soldiers For Christ. Like the artist displaying the image of a bloodied George W. Bush dancing away the blues, the purpose of this film is not to sway anyone’s opinion, or convert them to a position different from the one they started with. Instead, it’s there to reassure us by echoing our weak and pointless protests against the rising tide of mass insanity. This sounds reasonable enough, but it’s still a lie, and worse, it’s exploiting a victim to enrich our own lives.


~With Jenny’s death in 2004, the last of the Likens family is gone, freeing the filmmakers from any concern about lawsuits or royalties (it’s doubtful that any of the remaining killers will endanger their anonymity looking for a handout). They won’t be alone in enjoying this new freedom, since there’s a concurrent production of Jack Ketchum’s “The Girl Next Door,” a novel based on the same events. I suspect both the Millet book and John Dean’s “The Indiana Torture Slaying” will come out in new, expanded editions soon, feeding our prurient curiosity in ways ratings sensitive movies can’t. It’s funny to think that Sylvia Likens will soon be enjoying such celebrity, considering how little people valued her when she was alive. First neglected and then abandoned by irresponsible parents, she then became the plaything of a pack of vicious animals, used up and thrown away like garbage. This short, pitiful life ended as it had been lived, unwanted and unloved. But now, more than forty years after the last breath was crushed out of her lungs, Sylvia Likens finally has value. Not value in who she was or what she might have been; that’s both unknown and uninteresting. Sylvia’s value has nothing to do with the individual, and everything to do with who, and what, destroyed her. For those few of us left sane in a country hell-bent on losing its’ mind, her battered and bruised corpse serves as a kind of totem to clutch as the red-state tidal wave threatens to wash us all away. We are losing control of our country to a violent mob of religious fanatics, war-mongers and bigots, but have, as cheap compensation, the innately superior belief that nothing in our beliefs would result in the torture and death of a sixteen year-old girl. And while this may be true, it fails to admit that we then benefit just as much from Sylvia Likens, our self-satisfied sense of humanity and pity feeding off her corpse just as much as their deranged pleasures. By making her a prop in our theatre of righteous liberalism, we are in serious danger of engaging in the same dehumanizing exploitation that her killers enjoyed. While the endless physical agony of the beatings and burns must have been beyond endurance, the worst aspect of what Sylvia Likens went through was that all this bodily torture was suffered in front of a crowd of leering and hooting spectators. Each afternoon, they would march her out from her cage in the basement, strip her naked, and visit every pain and degradation their twisted minds could produce. We may shake our heads crying in condemnation as we contemplate this spectacle, reacting in horror at the sight of her naked and violated body. But to feed our pity, we must keep her in that wretched state, forever doomed to parade across our stage to take her place in the torture chamber of our nightmares. Whatever our reasons, we are still keeping Sylvia chained in the basement, forcing her to reveal her humiliating wounds to satisfy our needs. In the end, we are just as guilty as her tormentors of watching her suffer so that we may feel better about ourselves. For the powerless, the captor’s motive means nothing when the outcome is the same.




the basement where Sylvia Likens was kept prisoner for the final months of her life; the room where she spent the final hours of her life.








30 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What gave you the right to plaster my fathers name {Coy Hubbard} over the internet? I guess people like you don't really care who's lives you are destroying, after all Sylvia Likens was 40+ years ago. I wasn't even born yet and you've destroyed mine.

Thank You,
Sincerely.
Dealing with it

8:31 PM

 
Blogger Jason M Cutler said...

I posted a reply to this, which can be found here:

http://thebluemonkpage.blogspot.com/2006/12/
poison-pen-responding-to-my-hate-mail_27.html

10:27 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. That was incredibly long winded. So what are we to expect you are a better person than anyone who wants to go and see this film, regardless of wether or not they know of the story already? Get a life dude.

11:10 AM

 
Blogger Jason M Cutler said...

Actually, dude, I not only didn't pass judgment on the movie's future audience, I didn't even bring the topic up. The point of the article, dude, is to question the motives of the filmmakers, and perhaps ask a larger question about the limits of film...the stated purpose of this website. Dude, there are more than enough film sites out there that restrict the discussion to brief exclamations of hollow enthusiasm and passive Hollywood worshiping ...I'm sure much less likely to harsh your buzz, dude.

11:40 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, Coy was 16 when this happened and under the influence of Gertrude, drugs, and alcohol. I do know Coy and I'm not condoning what happened but he has served his time and is a very loving husband, father and grandfather,uncle, brother etc.! He was a kid for Heavens sake!!! I know you all have frustrations and it is a terrible story but how many murderers walk out of prison everyday after serving their time and live productive lives and don't have to deal with this kind of stuff???? Come on now...he has served his time...let him be. Watch the movie and learn from it. We don't need a witch hunt

12:14 PM

 
Blogger Jason M Cutler said...

I don't understand how this has turned into a debate about Coy Hubbard. As I have written both here and in the long reply I included the URL for, I have no opinion or interest in Mr. Hubbard, one way or the other. There are any number of websites out there that offer message boards for arguing about the adult accountability for crimes committed as a child, but this is not one of them. For the millionth time, it is not in my range of study to question the motives of anyone involved in a single crime committed more than five years before I was even born, by people who have either died or are getting quite old. The singular purpose of this piece was to question the motives behind turning Likens' torture/murder into a motion picture. If anyone agrees or disagrees with my issue concerning the adaptation of this story into a motion picture. But if you are only interested in attacking or defending Coy Hubbard, or any of the other participants for that matter, please choose one of the countless thousands of websites dedicated to either protecting the rights of victims, or protecting the rights of criminals who have paid their debt to society.

12:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just a quick question anonymous: Dad still alive? Justice may take time, but there is a moral arc in the universe eventually it will touch your pop. Bastard

8:15 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The shame that was brought on anyone involved in this tragic death of young Sylvia, will never go away,...it happenned,...deal with it !
Sylvia is dead,...and will remain dead,...she didnt have her chance to enjoy a nice long life,...like some of us have.
Instead of defending some one that you say did their time,..you should understand,....the punishment for Murder,..should be DEATH,...or life in Prison without Parole,...
Everyone got off pretty easy( even Gurty ) due to their young age,..and that it was not exactly at any one certain persons hand that Sylvia died,...but a combination.
I know several of the people involved personaly,....Mr Monroe, who was one of the kids that used Sylvia for a punching bag, still lives in the same house, next door.
I worked with Richard Hobbs afterwards at McDonalds at State & Washington,...he never got to live it down,....why should anyone else ?
Tho Richard was a good sort of guy, trouble followed him where ever he went.
My friend Benny Hughs,..was the "Boyfriend" of Sylvia, mentioned in Kate Millets book, "The Basement",....
If Benny were to of met up with any of the people involved in this murder,..there would of been more of a story to tell,..sad to say, but Benny has passed on too.
I recently put silk flowers on Syliva's Memeorial at Willard Park on her 40th death anniversary,..out of respect for her,..and my friend Benny.

8:29 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought that the person that Kate Millett based Sylvia's boyfriend on was named Mike Erson and that he was from California and that Sylvia had met him when the Likens family had lived there while Lester worked for Douglas Aircraft. Did he move to Indianapolis and change his name? How many people really knew Sylvia? How many are going to come out in the coming months claiming to have known her? How are we to know who is telling the truth and who is not.

2:05 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Benny referred to in Ms. Millett's book is Sylvia's own brother Benny Likens. Jenny's twin. She does make mention of a Ronnie and Donnie Simpson. Is that who you mean?

2:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish to respond to the individual who claims to be a child of Coy Hubbard, as well as the other person who spoke as though they are related to him - I believe they made reference to Mr. Hubbard as a husband, father, uncle - ad nauseaum - I think you left out sadistic, vile, cruel and an accompolice to Murder Most Fowl - I won't call him an animal -that would be such an insult to all animals! Let's take a little trip down Memory Lane - YOUR father, relative or whatever you claim him to be - on October 24th, 1965 at approximately 8:30 P.M. after he finished work at Laughner's Cafeteria stopped by the Baniszewski house and the last thing that "piece of garbage" did was to knock Sylvia Likens unconscious with a broomstick. This was the last time he ever saw her ALIVE!! But, let's not wallow in the past - Let's move ahead to 1978 when he went to prison for Armed Robbery OR, how about in 1983 when he was tried for the MURDER of not one but TWO men in rural Putnam County (in 1977) But was Acquited by the jury!!! Ah...Yes!!! Let's hear for this most sensitive fellow!!!! I'll tell you something - precious few people know about the Likens case but with the movie "An American Crime" coming out August 17th, 2007, there is sure to be much fanfair and publicity and I hope that the ever resourceful reporters (all those TALK SHOWS on EVERY CHANNEL at ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT) in this country come looking for "YOUR DAD, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR HUSBAND... ETC" as well as the REST OF THE OLE' GANG... iT WILL BE such fun TO CATCH UP on what's new in their lives... And- keep in mind THEY HAVE LIVES - THEY WEREN'T HUMILIATED, TORTURED AND MURDERED "40+ years ago". Now, you talk to us about destruction!!!!!!

5:42 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coy Hubbard died June 23,2007.
Weird coincidence that it's the same day that Sylvia's sister,Jenny,died on in 2004.
Maybe he's getting judo-flipped into spiked covered wall and hot coal covered floors for all eternity.

12:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember the murder very well. I was 13. It scared and sickened me then. It does now.

Most everyone who was involved is dead now. Some died very young, years ago. For the life of me, I don't understand why yet another account of Sylvia's final days has been committed to the media. Those of us who were around then--especially those of us who were Indy residents--still remember and are unlikely ever to forget. There are enough current atrocities to keep the media sufficiently busy making images of them for the current generation, and sadly, there probably always will be.

As for me, I don't hope that anyone burns in hell. Ever. There is quite enough of life spent wasted and tormented on earth. As for what any of us deserves, well, I surely don't claim to know, but I rather shudder to think of it.

Lisa

12:40 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope everyone that was involved in the murder of that poor young gilr burn in hell for eternity. I don't understand how another human being could have done the things that was done to that girl. It takes a demon to be so evil and sick and as far as im concerned they were all demons!

1:52 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am doing research, can you tell me who is Linda Smith?

9:49 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disregard last question about a Linda, wrong blog!

1:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am glad coy hubbard is dead HAHAHHA, he NEVER deserved to live and was lucky enough to live as long as he did. pos

2:17 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I SEEN THE MOVIE AND READ THE BOOK...HOW VERY SAD FOR THIS YOUNG GIRL. I WAS SHOCKED BY WHAT I READ AND MY HEART WENT OUT FOR POOR SYLVIA. I WAS ALSO ANGRY THAT IT SEEMED THAT ALL GOT OFF EASY AND THE CRIME WAS MADE OUT TO BE NO "BIG DEAL". THIS WAS A SAD SITUATION ALL THE WAY AROUND. HER FAMILY WAS TOO BLAME FOR LEAVING HER THERE WITHOUT KNOWING THIS FAMILY. GERTIE WAS FOR SURE TO BLAME FOR BEING THE RING LEADER, AND THE CHILDREN SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER. THINK OF THE TORTURE AT LEAST SOME OF THESE PEOPLE LIVED WITH FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN EASY. REMEMBER THEY WERE YOUNG! BUT ALSO, THIS BLOG SADDENED ME BY THEY WAY SOME ARE ATTACKING FAMILY MEMEBERS OF COY HUBBARD. THIS PERSON CLAIMS THAT COY HUBBARD IS THEIR FATHER, IS IT THEIR FAULT WHAT HAPPENED WHILE THEIR PARENTS WERE KIDS. COME ON, THIS PERSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. ALSO, I'M SURE THEY HAVE LIVED WITH WHAT THEIR FATHER HAS DONE ALL OF THEIR LIVES. AS A CHILD WE HAVE THE INSTINCT TO LOVE OUR PARENTS...IS THAT A CRIME!

12:58 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHILD OF COY HUBBARD. YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SHOULD NEVER GET A NIGHT'S REST. YOU NEED TO BE HAUNTED EVERY DAY OF YOUR FILTHY LIVES AND NEVER KNOW A PEACEFUL DAY. HOUNDED LIKE THE DOGS YOU ARE. IF I WERE SYLVIA'S FATHER I WOULD HAVE WAITED FOR THE DAY YOUR FATHER WAS RELEASED AND TAKEN HIM AWAY TO A SECURE LOCATION AND DAILY KICKED HIS BALLS IN.

7:01 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so the coy hubbard family i understand is quite upset because people are giving him and his family a bad name. NEWS FLASH! He gave himself a bad name. Yes he was 16 when it happened and was also a minor, but he also knew the difference between right and wrong. The fact that anyone can sit there and watch a human being tortured and humiliated like that disgusts me. A message to "Dealing with it" people blasting your father has destroyed your life?? Please sweetheart spare me, your father is still alive, you can see him everyday. What about Sylvias family? They get a headstone.

4:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever did happen to this bastard Coy Hubbard? Is he alive or dead? I cant find anything on the internet about his alleged involvement in the murder of two men in the 1970's. What about that evil bitch Paula? I would really love to know what happened to her and the daughter she gave birth to during the trial.How come nobody has been able to track either one of these evil son of a bitches down? Where is Maury Povitch when you need him?

7:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coy Hubbard passed on in June of 2007 at the age of 56. Paula Baniszewski is still living; she'd be 62 at this time (March 2010). They all got off light. None of them should ever have been allowed to see the sun again.

11:33 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I JUST WATCHED THE MOVIE LAT NIGHT AND I WAS VERY DISTURBED BY IT AND COULDNT SLEEP AND WHEN I DID SLEEP I WOKE UP FROM DREAMS.ALL THAT WAS INVOVLED SHOUD OF BEEN HUNG.I CAN NOT BELAEVE HOW PEOPLE HAVE SUCH SICK MINDS THAT THEY COULD DO THAT TO SOME ONE.
DIANA SHOULD OF STEPPED IN.SHE HAS TO LIVE WITH THAT FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.AND FOR THE HUBBARD FAMILY THEY TO WILL PASS IT DOWN FOR ALL OF THERE FAMILES ALSO SO THEY WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT IT.AND THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO BLAME COY AND HIS BROTHER.

10:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! I just found out about this story today from a former coworker. I used to work alongside Coy at his final place of employment for 3 years (I guess he got fired because of the publicity of a movie debut 05~06'). I used to say to others that Coy reminded me of an old gangster or someone in the witness protection program - he just struck me as someone who had a past that they'd like to forget. I'm not defending him - though I DO wish the best for his family. Most of you will probably refuse to accept this perspective, but I found it odd then, as I do now, how highly respected Coy was at work. Even the bosses treated him like the godfather - maybe they were afraid he would kill them idk. He was the only person there that nobody had anything ill to say about - pretty much well liked by all... until now of course. If anyone has any links to info on the double murder acquittal - they would be appreciated.

10:06 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well for one thing this girl died a tragic death no doubt about that.but not everything came out at the trial so lets move on. everybody is looking at this as if Sylvia likens was still 16 well she isn't she would be in her 60,s but lets not forgot her at any age but at least move on to the CHILDREN OF TODAY that are being abused molested kidnapped and murdered those kids are the ones people should be writing about and trying to do something positive and STOP crying over someone who died over 40 years ago.know one can help miss.likens but try to help some other child who needs it.and for the ones who are going to come on here and criticize me for writing this your just wasting your time because you no i am right.

2:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad Coy, Ricky, John, and Gertrude are dead. I never forgive such people. Yes although John publicly repent,He still done it so I'm glad hes dead.Can't wait til the others are gone. Hope someone tears up their grave sites, and smashes up their headstones.

1:54 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE LOVE THIS MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do Something.

1:10 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHERE THE STARS OF THIS PIECE SHIT MOVIE.

1:12 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

must be one those gay couples.

1:17 PM

 
Blogger Unknown said...

To whoever is the child of Coy Hubbard, I just want to say that your father is a sick, demonic, demented, disgusting, girl woman beating coward who only picked fights with little girls and thinking that he is toughest of all, why didn't he pick on guys his own size? Not even 5 foot 5 guys who can easily drop kick him to the floor, I would certainly do that if I was around back in 1965 and saw of all the horrifying things he and the demon family were doing to Sylvia, if I was around back then, I would have slammed and beaten his ugly face on the wall many times and done judo flips on him 16 times and said all the ugly things that he deserved to hear and then beaten him up so hard that he would regret ever being born and him not having to spawn you, I would be ashamed if I ever found out that if my father or other family member murdered an innocent person, I would disown that person so fast he/she would not know what hit them, it's an absolute joke that our so called justice system worked out in his favor and the rest of the demon family while Sylvia will never get to enjoy the things she wanted to be in life, having kids, being married, having a good job or career and she is permanently separated from all of them while your ugly no good coward father got to enjoy what life had despite being arrested several more times, it would have been better if he got the death penalty and having him to suffer the same exact way as Sylvia did, like what that demon and her cult should have, I have no sympathy for him or any of the other demons or anyone who defends, that includes you, if I was the judge, he would have been dead long ago and his ugly demon children like you would never be born and breathing the same air as we do, if you defend him for all the atrocities he did, I feel sorry for you, but at least today he is burning and rotting in a dark fiery pit known as Hell where he is suffering a million times and enjoying the carnival of horrors where there will be no escape and that his pain and suffering there is eternal and if I ever visit his grave which he should have never had, I would destroy it and dig it up and destroy and smash his ugly skeleton all over, I don't care if I go to jail for that, I should be rewarded because he murderer especially a child torturing murdering should never have a grave, anyway I want to say to you that if you defend your no good ugly demon coward father, I hope all the pain and suffering and blood that Sylvia released stains your ugly soulless self for all eternity, anyway I'll end my response by saying that no matter what your no good father did or said in the years after Sylvia's death, he'll still be remembered as a girl beating woman abusing demonic coward who will never be superior to Sylvia and her innocence and beauty and purity will overshadow and entomb the sad pathetic nature that is your father and the rest of the child torturing demons in that dark fiery pit where there is no escape and that their pain and torment and suffering is eternal, have a nice pathetic life full of mediocrity and humiliation and you think you're tough and want to pick a fight with me, go ahead, do it, I triple dog dare you, you pathetic defender of a child torturing murdering coward.

3:47 PM

 

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